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Welcome to The Modern Principal Podcast! We are Karen and Christy, two elementary principals reshaping education. We discuss practical strategies for doing the job while reforming the system.
Welcome to The Modern Principal Podcast! We are Karen and Christy, two elementary principals reshaping education. We discuss practical strategies for doing the job while reforming the system.
Episodes

Tuesday Aug 27, 2024
Leading Effective Meetings
Tuesday Aug 27, 2024
Tuesday Aug 27, 2024
Have you ever worried your staff are sending "This meeting could have been an email" memes to each other during your weekly staff meeting? In this week's episode, Karen and Christy walk you through the basics of facilitating meetings that get results!
Learn how:
- to use meetings to further your vision
- prepare meetings where work gets done
- make meetings more efficient
If you like this episode, be sure to check out our Leading Effective Meetings course with even more examples, resources, and information!
References:
How to Run a Meeting by Antony Jay, Harvard Business Review
The Economic Impact of Bad Meetings, TED
Steven Rogelberg
The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker

Monday Aug 12, 2024
New Season Kick-Off!
Monday Aug 12, 2024
Monday Aug 12, 2024
Karen and Christy are BACK in action! Hear about what they've been up to over the last school year, where they're headed this year, and what you can expect from this new season of The Modern Principal Podcast!

Monday Apr 08, 2024
How to Sustain Your School's Vision
Monday Apr 08, 2024
Monday Apr 08, 2024
This conversation explores the importance of sustaining a vision in education and provides practical strategies for doing so. Christy and Karen share personal anecdotes about their experiences as principals, highlighting the challenges and successes they encountered. They discuss the role of mindset and implementation in achieving a shared vision, emphasizing the need for clear roles and frequent feedback. The conversation also delves into the importance of tackling hurdles and conducting SWOT analysis to address weaknesses and threats. Additionally, the hosts explore ways to involve families and share stories to reinforce the vision. Listen to find out more about vision sessions and engaging in collective thinking to keep the vision alive!

Monday Apr 01, 2024
How to Create a Vision for Your School
Monday Apr 01, 2024
Monday Apr 01, 2024
Creating a vision for a school is an important responsibility of a leader.In this episode, Karen and Christy discuss the process of creating a vision for a school. They provide steps for creating a vision, including gathering stories, identifying themes, and drafting a why statement. They also discuss the challenges of creating a vision and the need for ongoing communication and repetition.
Be sure to check out Part 2 of this series for tips on sustaining a vision!

Monday Sep 11, 2023
Using Conflict to Improve Your School Culture
Monday Sep 11, 2023
Monday Sep 11, 2023
On this week's episode, Karen and Christy discuss the idea that conflict is natural - and even necessary - in a school culture.
Listen to hear more about:
- how to use personality tests to create common language and understanding
- normalizing conflict
- creating a safe environment for conflict to occur
This episode was sponsored by Just Right Reader and Peer-Driven PD.

Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Shared Leadership: What to Do When Staff Don’t ”Stay in Their Lane”
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Ever had a staff member who shares lots of opinions on things that maybe don't apply to her? You probably want to acknowledge her concerns but also encourage her to "stay in your lane!" On this week's episode, Karen and Christy talk about:
- why you should feel grateful when staff bring complaints out of their "lane"
- how to use teams to improve decision-making and reduce complaints
- setting ground rules for sharing feedback
This podcast is sponsored by Just Right Reader and Peer-Driven PD.

Monday Aug 28, 2023
Communicating Student Behaviors with Parents
Monday Aug 28, 2023
Monday Aug 28, 2023
It can be anxiety-inducing for a principal to relay negative information to parents but especially when their child has made a mistake or engaged in a major behavior. On this episode of the pod, Karen and Christy talk about:
- how to get on top of behavior communication before the behavior even occurs
- tips to prepare for a calm conversation
- writing communication plans into behavior plans
and more!
Check out our website at www.themodernprincipal.com and on social media @themodernprincipal.
This episode is sponsored by: Just Right Reader and Peer-Driven PD.

Monday Aug 21, 2023
Impact of Physical Resources on Students and Teachers
Monday Aug 21, 2023
Monday Aug 21, 2023
In this episode, Christy and Karen interview Dr. Samantha Keppler, Assistant Professor of Technology and Operations, who studies education operations, or the management of human and material resources, in public schools.
In this episode Dr. Keppler helps principals:
- understand the current data (or lack thereof) regarding how teachers are supplementing resources in their classrooms
- the correlation of funded crowdsourcing projects and student achievement
- the correlation of funded crowdsourcing projects on teacher retention
- the complicated role of the principal in providing physical resources to staff
Samantha M. Keppler received her PhD in Industrial Engineering and Management Sciences from the Robert R. McCormick School of Engineering at Northwestern University. She is currently an Assistant Professor of Technology and Operations at the Stephen M. Ross School of Business at the University of Michigan. Her research focuses on resource operations and management in public education. Before graduate school, she was a public school math teacher in New York City. Learn more about her work at www.samanthakeppler.com or email her at srmeyer@umich.edu.

Monday Aug 14, 2023
Leading Math Instruction with Make Math Moments
Monday Aug 14, 2023
Monday Aug 14, 2023
On this week's pod, Karen and Christy chat with Kyle Pearce and Jon Orr, the math instructional experts behind MakeMathMoments.com.
You'll find:
- the best thing a principal can do to improve math instruction
- the importance of content knowledge
- offerings from Kyle and Jon that can help your school
Check them out here:
www.makemathmoments.com - Math Math Moments Academy, District Improvement Planning, Courses
https://makemathmoments.com/podcast/ - Make Math Moments Podcast
https://makemathmoments.com/districtassessment/ - Mathematics Program Assessment Screener for Leadership Teams
Kyle is the K-12 Mathematics Consultant with the Greater Essex County District School Board and Jon is a high school math teacher at John McGregor Secondary School in the Lambton-Kent District School Board in Ontario Canada. Together, they co-founded Make Math Moments where they develop professional development and classroom resources for K-12 educators and district leaders to spark curiosity, fuel sense making and ignite teacher moves.

Monday Aug 07, 2023
Secondary Staff Collaboration and Culture Building
Monday Aug 07, 2023
Monday Aug 07, 2023
This week's pod welcomes Dr. Danielle Ricci, a high school principal and an educational leader with an expertise in cultivating collaborative cultures. Her research focuses on how school administrators lead teacher collaboration. Her background as an athlete has helped her to keep the concept of team at the heart of her work. Danielle is a wife, a mom to five, including newborn twins, and a cold-water enthusiast who swims in the Atlantic Ocean year-round to save her principal sanity! Danielle shares with us:
- scheduling strategies to optimize staff collaboration
- parent engagement solutions
- student culture considerations!
